Comments on: Health Care For… Some? http://www.issueoriented.com/blogs/health-care-for-some/ What's going on with Issue Oriented (the podcast). Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:21:22 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mikeo http://www.issueoriented.com/blogs/health-care-for-some/comment-page-1/#comment-605 Mikeo Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:14:32 +0000 http://www.issueoriented.com/?p=546#comment-605 To a very large degree insurance is subsidized already. You may recall Mitt Romney touting his so-called market-based universal health care plan in Massachusetts; the reality was that subsidies are used to pay the high costs of insurance. Truth be insurers already rely on the government to be solvent. The result is still a multi-payer system though, complete with its out of control costs. Despite some successes in some areas, Mass has failed to make insurance affordable on its own, or even to adequately define "affordability". It is amazing to see the evolution of the term "universal health care". Years ago it was synonymous with single-payer; now it refers to any system that insurers everyone, either through public or private insurance. Insurers are now chomping at the bit for universal hc - what better for them than a system that mandates everyone buy their product and provides government subsidies to make it affordable for everyone? Amazing. To a very large degree insurance is subsidized already. You may recall Mitt Romney touting his so-called market-based universal health care plan in Massachusetts; the reality was that subsidies are used to pay the high costs of insurance. Truth be insurers already rely on the government to be solvent. The result is still a multi-payer system though, complete with its out of control costs. Despite some successes in some areas, Mass has failed to make insurance affordable on its own, or even to adequately define “affordability”.

It is amazing to see the evolution of the term “universal health care”. Years ago it was synonymous with single-payer; now it refers to any system that insurers everyone, either through public or private insurance. Insurers are now chomping at the bit for universal hc – what better for them than a system that mandates everyone buy their product and provides government subsidies to make it affordable for everyone? Amazing.

]]> By: Jack http://www.issueoriented.com/blogs/health-care-for-some/comment-page-1/#comment-598 Jack Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:14:31 +0000 http://www.issueoriented.com/?p=546#comment-598 Don't you think the enevitable result of Obama's plan is that the subsidized insurers will become completely dependent on the Federal Government to remain solvent, allowing for a virtual single payer system with eventual complete government control? I think its probable that, after racial issues, history will judge us most harshly on the way capitalism has dug itself into American health care. Poor people are literally going without medicine, chosing between food and medicine or limiting thier prescribed doses to avoid going with nothing. Don’t you think the enevitable result of Obama’s plan is that the subsidized insurers will become completely dependent on the Federal Government to remain solvent, allowing for a virtual single payer system with eventual complete government control? I think its probable that, after racial issues, history will judge us most harshly on the way capitalism has dug itself into American health care. Poor people are literally going without medicine, chosing between food and medicine or limiting thier prescribed doses to avoid going with nothing.

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